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Messian
Dread's meditations and other writings have
provoked a lot of reactions, both positive and
negative. And questions, of course. They are
adressed in this page. |
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MESSIAN DREAD SPIRITUALITY |
QUESTION |
Which Rastafarian or
Christian Organization do you represent? |
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ANSWER |
Not a single one. The
articles and meditations on my homepage are
my own findings, results of my own studies.
I have affection for some movements and
organizations, such as the Ethiopian
Orthodox Church, the Twelve Tribes of
Israel, the Evangelical Movement, but I do
not represent any denomination or house of
any Christian or Rastafarian congregation. |
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QUESTION |
Are you a so-called
"Messianic Rasta"? |
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ANSWER |
It depends on what you mean
with it, but it's safely to say
"No". The reason for that is that
a certain group is called by that name and I
am not a member of that group. |
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QUESTION |
Are you a so-called
"Fulfilled Rasta"? |
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ANSWER |
It depends on what you mean
with it, but it's safely to say
"No". The reason for that is that
a certain group is called by that name and I
am not a member of that group. |
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QUESTION |
Why do you say "Yesus
Kristos", "Yeshouah", and
not just "Jesus Christ"? |
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ANSWER |
That is because I want to
stress, that the Saviour is not an English
invention. He dwelled in Israel where they
called Him Yeshouah (or Yeshua). In Ethiopia
they pronounce His Name Iesous Kristos. And
yes, I also talk about Jesus Christ. So I do
it to stress the fact that it is not so,
that only the "correct" English
translation of the Name is to be applied
when talking to or about the Divine Saviour. |
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QUESTION |
Are you a Christian or a
Rasta? Or perhaps both? |
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ANSWER |
Yes, I am a Christian because
I know myself to be born again in Yesus
Kristos through the Holy Spirit on august 6,
1985.
I don't actively call myself a Rasta and
for the rest I know who I am, or trying to
find it out anyway. I don't want to be one
of these people who like to call themselves
Rasta without actually being one. I think
it's better to know who you are and simply
know that those who know, they know what
they should know.
I do not actively call myself a Rasta but
people call me Rasta. And they do so, either
because they are Rasta themselves, or they
want to bash me because they hate Rasta
and/or me.
I am not anti-Rasta, that's for sure. And
I don't mind being called a Rasta by one who
knows what Rasta is so to speak, but I don't
want to help out those who are anti-Rasta
and usually "accuse" me of being a
Rasta.
But the only true problem in this is
"calling yourself a Rasta", which
is different than being one.
So who feels it knows it, and I think I
know who I am to a certain extend anyway... |
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QUESTION |
Why do you refuse to
call yourself a Rasta? |
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ANSWER |
I am a born again Pagan, I am
born into the "Body of Kristos". I
know myself to be grafted on the same tree
where the natural branch is Israel. I see
the movement of Rastafari as (part of)
Israel. Yes, there is many in
Israel/Rastafari who I know to be in the
Body of Kristos too. But not everybody in
the Body of Kristos is of Israel.
I don't know how accurate my ideas are
concerning this, but for me it is impossible
to not see the Movement of Rastafari as
apart from Israel in some way.
The key for that can be found in the way
I look to Haile Selassie, the Ethiopian
Emperor.
When it comes to Rastafari, I see the
political function of the Ethiopian Emperor
as relevant.
For the Ethiopian Emperor, is the Ikon of
Kristos in His Kingly Character:
representing the Power of the Trinity, Who
is Yesus Kristos. Political-legally, as seen
from the Bible too, it means that a true
Rasta is a subject of HIM civilization, that
is the true Judeo Christian Civilization,
from the Ikon of Christ in His Kingly
Character.
So I do not necessarily consider myself
to be Rasta, simply because I am not of
Israel, neither spiritual neither carnal. I
also do not believe that becoming a part of
the Body of Kristos means one has to be part
of Israel. In fact, the Body of Kristos is
grafted branch and Israel natural branch.
The Tree is more important. The tree is
Abraham and the roots is JAH.
So I can not call myself Rasta. But some
other call me Rasta because for them it is a
different thing.
I would also like to draw some attention
to the question: Why do some people call
themselves Rasta, or "Messianic
Rasta"?
They are looking for themselves. But
Yesus Kristos said: "If you look for
yourself you will lose your life. But if you
lose yourself you will get Life". And
so, for me, as an ex-pagan, I can only know
myself when I look who I am in Kristos.
Only, stricktly, through Kristos. And
Kristos is black.
I am grafted, spiritually. I know my
place. I know where I am being called out
of. I know where I am being saved out of. I
have listened to the voice of JAH Rastafari
as He used Israel/Rastafari to guide me
straight back to Him through Yesus Kristos
alone. JAH Rastafari is the God of Israel,
but also the Creator and thanks trough that,
now I as pagan have peace with JAH too.
Israel made known to me the Name of the
Creator: JAH. And Yesus Kristos, JAH
Rastafari in the flesh, has made me born
again through His Holy Spirit. Not my works,
stricktly grace from JAH.
Is there another Christ except for the
black Christ? No, only false Christs. Is
there another God except for JAH RASTAFARI
the GOD OF ISRAEL? No, only lesser gods and
false gods.
So then, when JAH tells me I am dread (He
told me this in 1987), I know He did not
tell me I am Rasta. For Rasta is not only
spiritual, and my complete identity is
spiritual as I have lost my life when I
became born again. |
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QUESTION |
Some people claim you
should call yourself a Rasta. Any
comments? |
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ANSWER |
As a matter of fact I do have
some comments. This is something which I
have been confronted lately (august 2005) as
well.
There are two "kinds" of people
who want me to call myself a Rasta.
The first group are Rastas themselves and
they recognize who I am, perhaps even more
than I do myself. They would say so.
But the most important group is formed by
"Anti-Rastas".
Basically, it boils down to a definition
of Rasta that these people hold within
themselves. According to their definition, I
"must be a Rasta".
But I am not sure whether I myself would
agree with their definition. I don't even
know if I fit their description of a Rasta.
So that is why these people would want me
to do a thing like that. To confirm
their own ideas and use me as a scapegoat to
keep themselves wherever they are.
I know myself to be connected with this
movement of Rastafari, without calling
myself Rasta. This has to do with "what
is true Rasta" as much as "who is
true Rasta".
Some things simply happen to you...
I grew up and although my parents have
shown me Yesus Kristos, I saw the white
geezus portrayed from the very pulpits of
the church system. It was the voice of JAH
Rastafari primarily through music first, Who
called me to Him. I found out that JAH
Rastafari was a Biblical Name and Title
of... JAH Rastafari! Then I acknowledged
Yesus Kristos as the Lord of my life and His
sacrifice to be sufficient to get peace with
JAH Rastafari, the Creator. In other words,
I became born again.
Until I became born again, I was faced
with a situation in which I knew that JAH
Rastafari was calling me, using the movement
of Rastafari. For I could never have found
the Black Messiah in this Pentecostal church
system I grew up in.
So then, His Imperial Majesty has shown
me Iesous Kristos. It's the movement of
Rastafari, being this Israel, doing what
Israel should do: proclaiming the Name of
JAH to the pagans. Pagans like me, who had
to become born again in the Black Messiah
(Is there a white geezus that is the True
Yesus Kristos? I say: NO!), could not have
find Yesus Kristos if we were not shown His
Imperial Majesty, the King of
not-so-spiritual Israel, in the
legal/political sense.
Maybe this goes to deep for a short
explanation... In short, currently I think
it is possible that the movement of
Rastafari IS Israel in it's Messianic Form,
the only true form, the only true Judeo
Christian form. For it is abject nonsense to
speak about the west as if it is "Judeo
Christian". The west claims to come
from "the cradle of civilization"
and the Ethiopian true Judeo Christian
Civilization comes from the bible and the
Davidic Christian Bloodline.
The fact that the movement of Rastafari
is under this Kingship of Haile Selassie
(literally: the Power/Government of the
Trinity, that is Yesus Kristos in His Kingly
Character) means that they ARE Israel. For
is there an Israel without the Davidic King
on the Throne? Is there an Israel which does
not acknowledge The Power Of The Trinity,
Yesus Kristos?
But still, I see this Israel as separate
from the Body of Yesus Kristos. I mean,
being the ex-pagan that I am (born again in
1985), how can I call myself from Israel
where I am obviously not?
But isn't one of the most important
things within Rastafari the message:
"Know Yourself"? It is true. We
must know who we are. When you are Rasta,
you know that you are Rasta. And you look
around you and reality doesn't lie. Because
you know.
I know, that even though I am not of
Israel, I am a son of Abraham. Spiritually.
True, it's a bloodline as well but I
personally can not say anything about that
in the context of "know yourself".
I had to become born again through the black
Yesus Kristos, I know that...
So then, how can I say I am not of
Israel, and still be connected? Because of
the tree of Abraham, which is not of Abraham
but of JAH Rastafari. Thanks to Yesus
Kristos, JAH Rastafari is my roots. Strong
Roots.
Both Israel and the Body of Kristos or
all true believers in Yesus Kristos are
branches of the same tree.
In my idea, I would see the Movement of
Rastafari as part of this natural branch,
but not of the grafted branch persay. |
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QUESTION |
Do you believe Haile
Selassie is God and why (not)? |
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ANSWER |
No, I don't. His Majesty
himself was very clear about it himself.
There are also many Biblical reasons why I
don't believe HIM was God. I do not see this
fact as a reason not to call myself a
"Rasta", by the way. |
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QUESTION |
Why do you wear dreads? |
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ANSWER |
I am not a "dread to
reach the dread", if you maybe thinking
that way. The reason why I see red gold and
green is because I reject red white and
blue.
In other words, I know that by using the
African (only non Babylonian) colors, I
chant down Babylon. Just like when I have
dread I chant down Babylon. I am a dread to
reach the Babylonians with the dreadful
warning of the coming wrath of JAH.
You will not see me on a "mission trip
to Jamaica". But you will see me
chanting down Babylon with words, music and
prayer in the middle of Babylon.
Dreads are an outward sign of an inner
livication (rather then deadication) to the
Most High God, JAH. In the Bible, in the
book of Numbers Chapter 6 you can read that
JAH likes it that way. This sign is for
Babylon, that the wrath of JAH will be
dreadful. |
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QUESTION |
What is
"Babylon"? |
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ANSWER |
This cannot be answered in a
few lines. The simple reason for that is,
that Babylon is a mystery. In short, Babylon
is a state of con-fusion caused by
spiritually fornicating with the system of
Lucifer. The name Babylon can be given to
everything caused by the mystery.
In the last book of the Bible, the
Apocalypse, you will find this mystery
revealed. And, as a matter of fact,
throughout the whole Bible you will find the
mystery revealed.
Originally, the name is given to Nimrod
who was the founder of what we now call
"Civilization". This
"Civilization" is in fact the road
to global rule of none less than LUCIFER or
SATAN. What is today known as "Judeo
Christian civilization" or even
""civilization" can be called
Babylon.
In the Bible, Mystery Babylon is revealed
to be a spiritual entity. She is called
"the Mother of harlots and all
abominations" and it is said that
"all the kings fornicated with
her". Babylon has, as we see, many
spiritual children. All of her children
carry her name.
We can see the political and religious
forces that terrorize the planet, for
example. The so-called Christianity of the
Roman church and the globalistic United
Nations are clear expressions of Mystery
Babylon. Their boasting of "cradles of
civilization" should speak volumes to
the attentive observer of times.
We can see spiritual forces at work in
the minds of men, bringing them in a state
of spiritual con-fusion as we can see in the
New Age Movement. This is the ancient
Babylonian Mystery Religions at work... |
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QUESTION |
Why do you call yourself
"Messian Dread" |
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ANSWER |
Most Jews do not believe that
Yeshouah is the Messiah. But some do, and
because of their Jewish Identity they won't
stop calling themselves Jew. They're Messian
Jews. I am a Messian Dread. |
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QUESTION |
How does one become a
dread? |
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ANSWER |
The most easy answer would
be, grow them on your head. But simply
growing Dreadlocks on your head, doesn't
make you one. The truth is, that one becomes
a dreadlock in the Mother's womb, before one
is born. But it is also part of an Identity
which can only be fully expressed in
combination with a personal desire to
separate one self to Jah. And many, within
this identity, choose to become dread.
So you become a dread either because Jah
made you to be one or because you choose to
serve JAH by becoming a dread. |
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QUESTION |
Are you, what they say,
"born again"? |
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ANSWER |
Yes, I have surrendered my
life to Yesus Kristos on the 6th of august,
1985. I remember that date very clearly. |
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THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE
SUBMITTED BY A "CHRISTIAN LEADER" WHO
WAS ASKED THESE QUESTIONS BY PEOPLE ABOUT ME. MY
ADVICE TO THESE PEOPLE IS: PLEASE HAVE THE COURAGE
TO GET INFORMATION DIRECTLY FROM THE SOURCE BEFORE
ASKING OTHERS WHAT YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT ME!
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QUESTION |
Have you ever worked with
Christian Organizations? |
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ANSWER |
Yes, I did, in the 1980's. I
have learned a lot from working for an
organization called "Youth For
Christ". I have also worked with people
associated with an organization called
"Youth With A Mission". |
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QUESTION |
What have you learned from
working with them? |
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ANSWER |
I learned to work with other
Christians who had a totally different view
on certain things. It has formed me to a
great extend, to stick to the foundation,
Yesus Kristos. |
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QUESTION |
Have you ever worked for a
specific Church or Denomination? |
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ANSWER |
No, because I think it is not
good to limit one's self to one specific
denomination. People choose a church that
fits their personality, and personalities
can vary. Churches always want to have new
members, and not everyone can fit in the
same church. |
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QUESTION |
Have you joined a Church,
or do you go to some kind of regular
meeting? |
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ANSWER |
I feel connected with the
Ethiopian Orthodox Church and to the
Evangelical Movement, and I have joined an
evangelical church although I do not work
for that church or visit it's services. |
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QUESTION |
What do you think about
using marijuana? |
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ANSWER |
This is a very difficult and
complicated question. Using herb is
probably, after the believe in the divinity
of Haile Selassie, the most controversial
subject in the relationship between
Christians and Rastas.
Unlike some of my evangelical brethren, I do
not condemn the use of herb in itself. But
having said that, I must stress the
importance of a clear and conscious mind as
well. I have seen many people that stopped
using herb because it did not help them in
their relationship with Jah. But there are
also people that smoke herb and it does not
affect their believe in any negative way.
I think the best is, not to smoke herb. But
if you are smoking it and you are a
Christian, you should ask yourself some
questions: "Why do I use it?",
and: "What happens after I use
it?"
The Bible unfortunately doesn't mention
hashish and/or marijuana, where
archeological findings prove they were used
in biblical times and places. Many
evangelical Christians reject marijuana
where they also reject alcohol, for the same
reasons. And the Bible does speak about
alcohol and does not condemn it in itself.
It rejects abuse.
There is also the Greek word of "pharmakeia"
in scripture, which is translated with
witchcraft. Close analysis of the texts, in
my opinion, leads to the interpretation of
this word as "the use of drugs to
obtain spiritual experiences". I do not
believe, the use of marijuana in order to
establish a closer contact with Jah is a
biblically founded principle.
Check yourself: Don't smoke it if you think
it is herb that gives you a better contact
with Jah. Only Jesus Christ is the Door, the
Way and His Holy Spirit is our Daily Guide.
Nothing else. Don't smoke if you're no
longer able to think straight.
But if you're against smoking, and you meet
brethren who do, please bear in mind, that
in various cultures smoking herb is seen as
an innocent relaxation, like coffee,
tobacco, wine and beer. It is sometimes used
as a medicine. It doesn't necessarily have
to lead to apostasy, hard-drugs, and other
bush where straying sheep can be caught
into. |
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QUESTION |
I've read what you wrote on
herb. I still want to know if you smoke it
yourself, and if so, how much? |
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ANSWER |
I suppose I could say yes or
no, but I won't. If I would smoke herb, I
would not think different about it, then if
I would not smoke it, so it won't actually
add anything to what I already said about
it. And if I would answer that question,
after explaining my stance towards it, I
would drive attention to myself instead of
what I say. And I do not think that I am
that important. Besides, I would like to
challenge each and everyone to think for
one's self, and not do or don't do something
just because someone else is or is not doing
it.
Let me add to this, that I find the
question itself ridiculous. It's a question
that comes from a mind-set which puts the
emphasis on me as a person rather than what
I have to say.
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QUESTION |
I am a Christian struggling
with the question if I can smoke or not.
What advise can you give me? |
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ANSWER |
I can only point you out to
Kristos Yesus. If you are a Christian, then
you have accepted Christ as your Lord and
Saviour. He will guide you. I can however
give you some guidelines you can consider
before you will make your decision. You can
trust the Lord to guide you in this, when
you sincerely ask Him.
I would like to go to the motivation behind
it. Many people in the Christian World do
not smoke herb but want to smoke it. So they
should ask themselves: Why am I not smoking
it, and why should I want to smoke it?
Some people smoke it to get revelations. I
think that's dangerous, and the Lord is
certainly not limiting Himself to reveal
Himself only if people smoke herb.
Some people smoke it to escape reality. When
Christ is your reality so to speak, for He
said that He is the Truth (Reality), perhaps
you should consider if your perception of
reality shouldn't be a little different, for
when you are a Christian, then Christ is
your Reality, why then would you want to
escape from Him?
Some smoke it because it is a part of their
culture. They're not using it like drugs,
but like a way of enjoying themselves. The
Bible doesn't necessarily say that you can't
drink a little bit an enjoy yourself. The
people in Cana were really enjoying
themselves over the wine that our Lord and
Saviour had given them.
So I think you should base your decision on
your own relationship with God through
Christ, by prayerfully testing your motives. |
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